April 3, 2012

MILK - Jangan Salah Faham



Alamak, ramai salah faham ni, ok first i will answer each and every comments below HERE on this new entry.
From what I've read from the internet, first things first, yang tak bagus untuk kita yang TTC hanya LOW-FAT MILK.
Whole Milk or Full cream milk or Goat's Milk is fine. Goat's Milk is the best, anyway. 

"The study showed that women who ate more than two portions a day of low fat dairy foods were 85 per cent more likely to be infertile due to ovulatory disorders than those who only ate it less than once a week."
The researchers concluded that "High intake of low-fat dairy foods may increase the risk of anovulatory infertility whereas intake of high-fat dairy foods may decrease this risk".

ok means that, boleh minum but not EVERYDAY. once a week may not harm ovulation. 

and i dont believe on only one source, i've searched more. that's why i believed, because from what i only 'heard', low-fat milk is what they promoted the best for our health, and dari aku kawin aku pun minummm la susu lowfat assuming calcium yang ada tu untuk membantu pembentukan tulang nanti kalau dah pregnant, we all know calcium tu penting utk tulang, tapi taktau pulak when Fat is Removed from MILK, the milk will become useless and will mess-up our hormones! (source here: Fertility Diet) dan a few links on my previous entry.
jadi, untuk selamat minum je full cream milk.
nak teruskan minum low-fat, boleh but as long as it doesnt affect your menstruation. kalau selama ni period OK je, subur je, then i think boleh je minum. dont just get convinced on what i just wrote because aku pun membaca je, bukan aku yang buat kajian tu pun. 
so dont go tell everyone, Jay yang kata low-fat tu tak elok! hehehehe

About what i read about Dairy product. we all know dairy tu ialah sumber tenusu dari LEMBU.
and, the benefit of what's claimed from our cow's milk industry is MYTH. 

jadi there are two topics here: LOW FAT MILK & DAIRY PRODUCTS.
If full cream milk is better, it is still a dairy product, so if any dairy product termasuk Cheese, Butter, Yogurt, semua yang dari susu lembu pun tak elok, means full cream pun tidak baiklah?
Sementara belum jumpa source yang sahih, i just assumed that whoever not TTC, can go ahead with dairy. but yang TTC with these issue: PCOS, Ovulation disorder, Cyst, better void all dairy products. There are lots of alternatives selain Dairy Product. the key is to find out yourself. Well, ini salah satu usaha. usaha doesnt mean spend duit for medications, treatments, IUI, IVF, tapi dari segi pemakanan taknak usaha lansung and hantam semua benda. 

sebenanya up to us, nak ikut ke tak, if u think that none of these have affected your life, weight, kandungan gula, ovulation, then takpe lah can move on. dont just freak out on what i write here, (i am freaked out on what i found out myself too) hahaha...jadi banyak baca and u can ask your doctor. i asked my doctor last year, she said YES low fat milk CAN HARM OVULATION. but full cream wont harm. and we have to drink milk for calcium & vitamin D.
and she also said, Susu kambing itu lebih baik dari lembu but she didnt say WHY.
jadi kalau banyak tanya lagi consultation tu bukan free beb, jadi balik dan baca dekat internet untuk cari jawapan, internet is free :P consultation kena bayar. 
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To answer your confusions: 
Nanoke: omg! aku tetiap hari minum susu low fat.. tak HL, Dutch lady... hiskhisk... x sangke.. Hi-goat je la lps ni...
- Kalau ada PCOS - susah ovulate - period tak betul - insulin resistant - better switch to Hi-Goat je la hehe! 
tapi kalau period semua ok, boleh je low-fat tu tapi takleh selalu kot! better full cream then low-fat.  

Puan K: laa.. yeke? K ni dok blajar2 la minum susu.. sebab ada yang suruh minum susu kalau nak preggy.. sebelum ni memang tak minum susu...anyway, thanks for the info jay~ ;) so, tak yah la minum susu lagi dh, layan Hi-goat je...
-depends on your condition, if u are not a PCOS, period normal cuma susah nak lekat je then boleh je kot minum low-fat, but Full Cream is better. khasiat semua ada dalam tu. kalau Hi-Goat lagi lah baik sebab Susu Kambing is MUCH MUCH better than lembu.

Sweet Tooth: TQ for sharing Jay... akak ni memang penggemar susu tegar. Dah tambah satu knowledge baca ur blog :-)
-Saya pun penggemar susu tegar jugak! hehe, jadi bila saya tau lowfat tu tak elok, saya switch to FULL CREAM. please dont get confused, SUSU full cream is fine if u dont have menstrual/ovulation issue. 
tapi bila sy tau je Dairy product dari Lembu pun tak elok, aduh gigih la cari susu kambing. walaupun mahal tapi definitely its the best milk. Rasulullah SAW pun minum susu kambing dan ia adalah Sunnah. so for the sake of to get a healthy life & ovulation, ikutlah apa yang disyorkan oleh Rasulullah SAW :) 

S: aku minum. ok, in fact aku belasah je susu jenis ape pun kalo tekak teringin. sbbnye susu kambeng tekak aku tak leh pegi la. aisehhhh... kite wat milo je la pas ni
-milo pun kene letak susu beb. unless minum milo O la..hehehe..boleh minum susu laa..mcm ko dah sah2 la kena, ko pregnant! aku harap ko taksalah faham, LOW FAT je yang tak elok tu sbb bila FAT dah removed, khasiat2 lain dalam susu tu jadi useless sebab good FAT dalam susu tu yang jadi agent utk absorbed semua2 khasiat & vitamin dalam susu. minum je fullcream, tak gemok punya. :P Susu kambing aku minum sedap je sbb yg dlm paket tu, kalau yg fresh tu mmg yuck sket lah.. hehehehe

Sizuka: oh ye ker.. sy hari2 gigih jer minum susu low-fat tuh. sbb sy pernah terbaca yg susu boleh membantu ovulasi... wallahua'lam...
- boleh share dari mane yg sizuka baca tu? susu ada banyak jenis, maybe not low-fat milk sebab yang saya baca seluruh internet ni, saya cuba cari ada tak source yang mengatakan low-fat tu membantu ovulation, but there are none. 
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ok seems like there is a lot of confusion including me! hahaha...i will read more and share with you, tapi sama2 lah kita cari jugak, takot tersalah info and salah faham, aku kang dikatakan memandai-mandai. 
lagipun Susu memang banyak jenis ( Skimmed, Full Cream, Low Fat, Pasteurized, Goat's Milk, Almond Milk, Rice Milk SOY milk), yang mana baik atau tak baik je kita kena tau. 

hope this explains. :) 

12 comments:

  1. Jay,

    I tak berapa minum sangat but sekarang tengah minum Anlene Choc.

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  2. Anlene mmg concentrated on calcium kan, for bones i think it is good. but it is also low-fat so im not sure if it can mess-up our hormones or not. i pun minum anlene for 2years b4 kawin dulu, then lepas kawin Anlene dtg my office to offer bone health check for free. bila check mmg my bone n calcium tip-top! hehehe thanks to Anlene. (but dont know whether my hormones were affected by that) -__-
    ur period n ovulation smua ok tak? kalau ok i think Anlene is fine kot.

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  3. jay, I'm PCOSer... problem dekat hormon Progestron yang sgt low dan memngganggu pembesaran telur... huhu~ So, minum susu pun doesn't help me to conceive la ye.. hehehe (alasan tak nak minum susu) ;)

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  4. aaaaa....switch to Goat's Milk then :) dairy product memang harm our ovaries kalau kite ade hormones problem. u sama dgn i jugak lack of progesterone...uhuhuu..lucky we got internet kan so we can search for this info.
    -i purchased a fertility e-book online few days ago dan dalam buku tu pun tulis pasal low-fat & dairy products yg not good for PCOS. nvm still have time to change! :D

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  5. errr, aku mmg minum milo tak letak susu? owh, nama dia milo o la eh. baeekkk.

    ok, meh aku nk share pasal susu juga ye. ni info sahih dr gynea aku sndrik. die kate, unless susu kambeng/lembu yg segar, baik jgn minum langsung. pack milk mmg tak elok. kalo ade nutrisi pun, terlalu sikit, gula lagik banyak.

    pastu katanya lagik, sape kate pompuan pregnant wajib minum susu? tak langsung! dha dha yg ada dlm susu2 tu sume adalah extract. yg lebey gula, potensi utk diabetic time pregnancy akan lebey tinggi. pastu, katanya lagik, kalo betul nk dha bagai tu, terus amik pil (ok, size die besar ibu jari. seyes aku tak tipu). malaysian mudah sangat tertipu dgn iklan2 bersepah dekat tv. sama gak mcm anlene, ko telan je pil kalsium. lebey baik. gula pun takde.

    dan katanya lagik, susu terbaek adalah susu segar kambeng as compared to lembu.

    itu katanya pada aku la. sambil suh aku pegi teguk susu kambeng kt luar bilik die yg sgt wekkkkkkk (aku minum seteguk je, pastu laki aku yg kene abeskan.)

    lepas tu, soya pun die kate kurangkan. tak elok. sbb extract2 soya tu byk dah hilang kalo yg pack punya. tp tu aku tak tanya lebey2 sbb aku mmg tak bape minum soya pung. pastu katanya lagik, jgn percaya myth minum soya anak anda gerenti putih. takdeeeee. itu myth. tp anak anda akan prone to masalah kulit sensitip.

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  6. YEZZA! finally another explanation from a doctor! i mean, ur doctor.
    ok but susu kambing iGC yang aku minum ni, ok lah utk digestion semua tapi still its packed tapi better than susu lembu, nak mendapatkan yg fresh mmg susah weh so i think iGC yg aku minum by biodex ni did just fine sebab die rendahkan kandungan gula. mmg tawar. yg lama punya packaging mmg manis, skang dia dah improve sket sebab rasa dah lain n tawar :D

    laki aku keje kat medical lab uitm, SOY tu mmg student2 dia kaji n mmg betul tak bagus lansung. kebanyakkan SOY semua processed nak cari yg betul2 SOY mmg susah, by the way SOY yg asli pun tak elok juga T__T aku jumpe source nanti aku share. tgh dok baca lagi psl soy.
    alaaaa anak putih ke itam ke yg penting dah beso hormat makbapak :P wakaka...

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  7. hehe, interesting topic. terasa ingin menyibuk di sini. anyway, i read somewhere yang dairy milk adalah penyebab utama breast cancer! u know that breast lah, ovarian lah and other cancer yang melibatkan perempuan ni mesti ada kene mengena dengan hormon dalam badan kita..so logik lah kat situ untuk pcoser macam you untuk avoid dairy milk. dan sebenarnya untuk saya, agak kurang nak percaya bila product di pasaran tulis 'less sugar', atau 'high calcium' atau 'low fat'. mesti company tu tukar something yang entah apa apa dalam tu, even 0.01% pengurangan pun dia kata kurang. or kadang-kadang memang kurangkan tapi tambah benda lain macam artificial sugar dan sebagainya. paling bagus, pendekatan ke arah natural product. lagi natural, lagi baik!

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  8. hehehe. anak putih hitam tak penting, tp aku tetap nk doa anak aku fair skin. aminnnn.

    tp sungguh, soy mmg tak berapa elok. abes nape org sebuk2 suh mnum soya eh? pelik tul aku.

    owh aku tatau pasal susu kambeng tu, sbb aku tak minat susu kambeng, biasanya aku minum susu sbb teringin kat tekak je. hl coklat, sbb rasa die cam mcd shake. owh, bole cenggitu?

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  9. jay, nnt klu i jumpa balik apa yg i baca i kongsikan ye... dah x ingat baca kat mana....

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  10. yg sy ingat melalui pembacaan tu, dia kata susu bagus utk bantu ovulation. tp sy je yg minum low-fat sbb konon2 x nak gemuk. haha... ok, skrg baru tahu, after this tukar al-khishbun/hi-goat je la...tq ye jay...

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  11. Since doctor Jay dengan doctor S dah buat statement kata goat milk lebih baik, i ingat nak switch to goat milk la..haha..sebab tiap2 minggu beli low fat milk..betul jugak, sunnah Rasulullah kan..

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  12. i am totally agree with azura!!!

    S: soya ni ade kontroversi dia weh. kalau rajin bace laa kan, mmg byk kontroversi. hahaha mcm artis lak si Soya ni. tapi zaman skang expert2 dah byk buat kajian, soy mmg tak elok especially for pompuan. die trigger cancer cell, yang laki plak, die lemahkan sperm sbb die phytoestrogen.

    Sizuka: hehehe okeh2 kalau jumpe share dgn kitorg ek..tapi rasenye yg u baca tu taksalah, sbb susu mmg source of calcium n vitamin D tapi susu yang dipasaran tu byk yg dah proses, buang lemak buang itu ini secara tak lansung nutrient2 penting pun hilang sekali..like what azura ckp atas ni la..

    b&c: yeahh..wah tiap2 minggu beli? better switch to goat's milk la mcm tu kan..i pun dah stop beli since dah tau dia xelok utk TTC.

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